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	<title>Comments on: [real-time connections] chapter 8: sweating the work</title>
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		<title>By: goodwordediting</title>
		<link>http://bibledude.net/2010/03/real-time-connections-chapter-8-sweating-the-work/comment-page-1/#comment-3551</link>
		<dc:creator>goodwordediting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I&#039;m so excited to hear from you directly! I&#039;m still confused, though. You don&#039;t seem to find any value in the software business you built and sold.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your work there was a ministry. Think of all the good you did in addition to just leading an ethical company: employees could buy insurance (to take care of widows), employees received income that fed their children and kept them from poverty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, knowing God is the most important thing. It is the greatest commandment. But there is a second &quot;Greatest commandment&quot;---to love our neighbors. And I believe you were loving your neighbors all along as you built that software business.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In some ways this seems like I&#039;m projecting my views onto you. That&#039;s not fair, but I believe this so strongly. In devaluing my own work, sometimes I have ended up devaluing my God-given gifts, burying them in the ground, so to speak.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks SO MUCH for responding her personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I&#39;m so excited to hear from you directly! I&#39;m still confused, though. You don&#39;t seem to find any value in the software business you built and sold.</p>
<p>Your work there was a ministry. Think of all the good you did in addition to just leading an ethical company: employees could buy insurance (to take care of widows), employees received income that fed their children and kept them from poverty.</p>
<p>Yes, knowing God is the most important thing. It is the greatest commandment. But there is a second &#8220;Greatest commandment&#8221;&#8212;to love our neighbors. And I believe you were loving your neighbors all along as you built that software business.</p>
<p>In some ways this seems like I&#39;m projecting my views onto you. That&#39;s not fair, but I believe this so strongly. In devaluing my own work, sometimes I have ended up devaluing my God-given gifts, burying them in the ground, so to speak.</p>
<p>Thanks SO MUCH for responding her personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://bibledude.net/2010/03/real-time-connections-chapter-8-sweating-the-work/comment-page-1/#comment-3543</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 18:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the Mark in chapter 8.  I can understand your confusion concerning my work. I have been in the computer business for 30 years.  My wife and I started a small software company in 1988 and sold it in 2010.  We always ran the business as honorably and ethically as we knew how.  We tried to show our love for our staff (3) and customers (50) as best we could. We did not start seeking God until after 9-11 (2001) at which point we became involved at Northwood.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As small business owners we rarely spent 40 - 50 hours a week &quot;at work&quot;.  Most of my work was done at home.  The majority of my day is spent reading the Word, non-fiction christian authors, worship and prayer.  This is my focus and where the bulk of my time is spent; Seeking God and His truth.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ministry began as a way to walk in obedience to what the Word says. As far as a &quot;calling&quot; anyone who has read the bible knows every child of God is called to help the; orphans, widows and poor.  So this is where we began, with the Word, what we knew to be true. God was faithful and showed up in ministry teaching us more and more about who He was and how I could become a fruitful member of His Kingdom.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The value is knowing God, nothing else really matters.  I have learned to know Him by; the relationship I have with Him, serving others on His behalf and walking side by side with others seeking Him and His will.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope this helps clarify a few things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the Mark in chapter 8.  I can understand your confusion concerning my work. I have been in the computer business for 30 years.  My wife and I started a small software company in 1988 and sold it in 2010.  We always ran the business as honorably and ethically as we knew how.  We tried to show our love for our staff (3) and customers (50) as best we could. We did not start seeking God until after 9-11 (2001) at which point we became involved at Northwood.</p>
<p>As small business owners we rarely spent 40 &#8211; 50 hours a week &#8220;at work&#8221;.  Most of my work was done at home.  The majority of my day is spent reading the Word, non-fiction christian authors, worship and prayer.  This is my focus and where the bulk of my time is spent; Seeking God and His truth.  </p>
<p>Ministry began as a way to walk in obedience to what the Word says. As far as a &#8220;calling&#8221; anyone who has read the bible knows every child of God is called to help the; orphans, widows and poor.  So this is where we began, with the Word, what we knew to be true. God was faithful and showed up in ministry teaching us more and more about who He was and how I could become a fruitful member of His Kingdom.</p>
<p>The value is knowing God, nothing else really matters.  I have learned to know Him by; the relationship I have with Him, serving others on His behalf and walking side by side with others seeking Him and His will.</p>
<p>Hope this helps clarify a few things.</p>
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		<title>By: L.L. Barkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.L. Barkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bradley, wow. I loved this. And, as is your habit... well-written too. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bradley, wow. I loved this. And, as is your habit&#8230; well-written too. <img src='http://bibledude.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scrubbybubbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrubbybubbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bradley!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I Like Renee, didn&#039;t think that That was What Bob Roberts was saying either.... But, that&#039;s Neither Here nor there, just my 2 cents;) Anyway!! You totally Nailed on the head the Point I was trying to get across when i said, I wondered about what my part in &quot;Fulfilling the Great Commission&quot;  was in my Post. Anytime I tried to Share Jesus, or anything it always Seemed awkward, Stilted and &quot;not real&quot;. I totally think that our first places of ministry should be our Workplaces, but, only as the Holy Spirit allows. I have Learned the hard way about trying to share my faith when the door for it isn&#039;t open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bradley!</p>
<p>I Like Renee, didn&#39;t think that That was What Bob Roberts was saying either&#8230;. But, that&#39;s Neither Here nor there, just my 2 cents;) Anyway!! You totally Nailed on the head the Point I was trying to get across when i said, I wondered about what my part in &#8220;Fulfilling the Great Commission&#8221;  was in my Post. Anytime I tried to Share Jesus, or anything it always Seemed awkward, Stilted and &#8220;not real&#8221;. I totally think that our first places of ministry should be our Workplaces, but, only as the Holy Spirit allows. I have Learned the hard way about trying to share my faith when the door for it isn&#39;t open.</p>
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		<title>By: Real-Time Connections? &#171; Shrinking the Camel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real-Time Connections? &#171; Shrinking the Camel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: renewaltalent</title>
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		<dc:creator>renewaltalent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, well if I discover this to be so as I read further that will be disappointing and misleading of the book, no?  Makes the book sound like it&#039;s made to tell us how to use the money we make at our jobs to fund ministry elsewhere?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know that it had all to do with me being young for making that decision, though.  I know lots of people who fear making that kind of leap or change and stick to being a cog or drone where they are for the money or status.  To me, everything we do stems from what we believe about God.  So in my situation I was not trusting God enough in the life decisions I was making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, well if I discover this to be so as I read further that will be disappointing and misleading of the book, no?  Makes the book sound like it&#39;s made to tell us how to use the money we make at our jobs to fund ministry elsewhere?</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know that it had all to do with me being young for making that decision, though.  I know lots of people who fear making that kind of leap or change and stick to being a cog or drone where they are for the money or status.  To me, everything we do stems from what we believe about God.  So in my situation I was not trusting God enough in the life decisions I was making.</p>
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		<title>By: laraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>laraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and BTW, the rest of my family--my nuclear family that is--are still JWs. Hubs and I are Presbyterians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and BTW, the rest of my family&#8211;my nuclear family that is&#8211;are still JWs. Hubs and I are Presbyterians.</p>
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		<title>By: laraj</title>
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		<dc:creator>laraj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have given me much to think about, Bradley. So now I&#039;m asking myself, why do I feel such guilt about never having participated in a missions trip? It is definitely a dream of mine, just not the right season. I think when I referred to myself as a coward (aka, yellow-bellied, liver-lillied and all the things Yosemite Sam would say) it&#039;s because I feel that pull right now, but do not feel it&#039;s the right time for me. Which bodes the question: Is there ever a right time? And am I wanting to do it for the right reasons? I know so many people who do...but do I just want to be able to say I&#039;ve done it? I hope not. I don&#039;t think I could visit the places of this world that are so in need and remain untouched. I think it&#039;s ok to distinguish between being called to live that way, and just wanting to help out sometimes. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hmm. So now I better start praying about this, huh? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rats. I mean, thanks, Bradley. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have given me much to think about, Bradley. So now I&#39;m asking myself, why do I feel such guilt about never having participated in a missions trip? It is definitely a dream of mine, just not the right season. I think when I referred to myself as a coward (aka, yellow-bellied, liver-lillied and all the things Yosemite Sam would say) it&#39;s because I feel that pull right now, but do not feel it&#39;s the right time for me. Which bodes the question: Is there ever a right time? And am I wanting to do it for the right reasons? I know so many people who do&#8230;but do I just want to be able to say I&#39;ve done it? I hope not. I don&#39;t think I could visit the places of this world that are so in need and remain untouched. I think it&#39;s ok to distinguish between being called to live that way, and just wanting to help out sometimes. </p>
<p>Hmm. So now I better start praying about this, huh? </p>
<p>Rats. I mean, thanks, Bradley. <img src='http://bibledude.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: goodwordediting</title>
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		<dc:creator>goodwordediting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flattery will get you everywhere, Bradley. I&#039;m glad you reworked your draft.&lt;br&gt;Nothing is worse than post regret.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, some things are worse. But post regret is pretty bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flattery will get you everywhere, Bradley. I&#39;m glad you reworked your draft.<br />Nothing is worse than post regret.</p>
<p>OK, some things are worse. But post regret is pretty bad.</p>
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		<title>By: bradleyjmoore</title>
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		<dc:creator>bradleyjmoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Bro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Bro.</p>
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